Mediatwits #87: TV Special: Apple, Google Are Coming; Netflix at the Emmys; Hulu Unsold

    by Zach C. Cohen
    July 19, 2013
    The New York Times' Brian Stelter was a featured guest on this week's podcast focused on the future of TV. Who is he looking at as a possible major player? Intel.

    Like most media, the future of television is online. This edition of the Mediatwits, we’ll talk about the prospects for tech upstarts Apple, Google, Intel and Sony, who are trying to push their way into the lucrative TV and entertainment business. Apple is aiming to work with incumbent cable companies, while Google is working against them. Meanwhile, Netflix’s original content has planted it on the same Emmy stage as major television networks and cable channels, winning 14 Emmy Award nominations. Plus, the winner of the bidding for buying Hulu was… Hulu? Hulu didn’t sell itself in the end, probably because it’s worth more than even the generous offers. Special guests Brian Stelter of the New York Times and Tracy Swedlow from the TV of Tomorrow show will parse out the future of online TV viewing and the role of Silicon Valley in Hollywood. MediaShift’s Mark Glaser hosts, along with Mónica Guzmán from the Seattle Times and GeekWire, and Andrew Lih from American University.

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    "I don't think [Netflix] is going far enough. They could have owned this space a long time ago... They're not doing hardly anything with social." -Tracy Swedlow


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    Mediatwits Bios

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    Ana Marie Cox is a senior political columnist for The Guardian. She is the founding editor of the Wonkette blog and has covered politics and the culture of Washington, D.C. for outlets including the Washington Post, Playboy, GQ, Mother Jones and Elle. She is the author of the novel “Dog Days” and lives in St. Paul, Minn. Follow her on Twitter @anamariecox.mark glaser ISOJ headshot

    Mark Glaser is executive editor of MediaShift and Idea Lab. He is a longtime freelance writer and editor, who has contributed to magazines such as Entertainment Weekly, Wired and Conde Nast Traveler, and websites such as CNET and the Yale Global Forum. He lives in San Francisco with his wife Renee and son Julian. You can follow him on Twitter @mediatwit.monica guzman

    Mónica Guzmán is a columnist for the Seattle Times and Northwest tech news site GeekWire and a community strategist for startups and media. She emcees Ignite Seattle, a grab-bag community-fueled speaker series. Mónica was a reporter at the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and seattlepi.com, its online-only successor, where she ran the experimental and award-winning Big Blog and drew a community of readers with online conversation and weekly meetups. Follow her on Twitter @moniguzman.AndrewLih_270x210

    Andrew Lih is a new media journalist and associate professor of journalism at the American University School of Communication. He is the author of “The Wikipedia Revolution” (Hyperion 2009, Aurum UK 2009) and is a noted expert on online collaboration and journalism. He is a veteran of AT&T Bell Laboratories and in 1994 created the first online city guide for New York City (www.ny.com). Follow him on Twitter @fuzheado and buy his book here.

    Special Guests


    Brian Stelter is a staff reporter for The New York Times, covering TV and digital media. His first book, “Top of the Morning,” looks at the morning TV wars. In 2004 Stelter created TVNewser when he was a freshman at Towson University, a blog covering the television news industry, and later sold it to Mediabistro. Stelter appeared in the 2011 documentary “Page One: Inside The New York Times.” He lives in the West Village of Manhattan with his girlfriend Jamie Shupak, the morning traffic anchor on NY1. Follow him on Twitter @brianstelter.

    Tracy Swedlow

    Tracy Swedlow is CEO, publisher, and editor-in-chief of InteractiveTV Today [itvt], which was founded in 1998, and is also the executive producer and director of the TV of Tomorrow Show conferences that occur bi-annually in San Francisco (Spring/Summer) and New York City (Fall). Her writing has appeared in many leading newspapers and trade publications, including the New York Times, the San Francisco ExaminerPC WorldMultimedia World and VR World.

    Podcast topics

    1. Apple, Google, Intel, Sony elbowing into TV business

    In years to come, we might consider Apple, Google and other tech behemoths as the kings of TV, and think a lot less of Comcast, Time Warner Cable and other distributors. Along with upstarts Netflix and Amazon, Intel and Sony are prepping TV services for the fall, and more news is leaking out about efforts by Apple and Google. This is Google’s second go-round for a TV service, this time trying to license content and charge for it, according to a report in the WSJ. Meanwhile, Apple is working more closely with cable providers for its service, which would include ways for cable subscribers to get content without a set-top box, according to NYT’s Brian Stelter. Plus, Apple would like to include an ad-skipping service, but the twist is that they would pay media companies when premium users skip ads.

    Which tech companies have the best prospects? Can Google get this right, and will Apple’s attempts to work within the system help? Who will be left standing in TV services when all is said and done?

    2. Netflix garners 14 Emmy nominations

    Netflix became the first streaming TV service to grab major Emmy nominations with 14 total, including best drama for “House of Cards.” Of course, its cable rival HBO garnered 108! The old saying is true: Content is king. Just as HBO in the early 2000’s burst onto the broadcasting excellence scene, Netflix’s investment in shows like “House of Cards” and “Arrest Development” have garnered the streaming service a spot right next to cable and network TV channels. Seeing big stars on small screens could have been a draw for both the audience and critics, especially since “House of Cards,” with Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright, nabbed nominations for best actor, actress and best drama (“Arrested Development”’s Jason Bateman also got a nod for best actor in a comedy). And Netflix seems to have no signs of letting up, recently releasing the first season of “Orange Is the New Black.”

    Has Netflix arrived as a content studio? What can old-school channels learn from Netflix, and vice-versa?

    3. Hulu goes unsold: why?

    Hulu could have been sold for upwards of $1 billion. But at the last minute, Fox and Disney pulled the plug. There are competing stories as to why. Either Disney changed its mind at the last minute to keep Hulu, or the money being offered was simply too low to be acceptable. Either way, it seems that Fox and Disney place a lot of value in the streaming service, perhaps more than what some of the buyers were offering. As Fox, Disney, Yahoo and major television networks look to get into the online streaming market, News Corp.’s Rupert Murdoch and Disney’s Bob Iger think Hulu’s future is strong, even if they’re not sure what exactly it will grow to be.

    Where does Hulu fit in the online television market? What does it have to offer that helps it compete, and what’s holding it back? Will the onslaught of ads on its premium service turn away subscribers?

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    Zach C. Cohen is an editorial intern for PBS MediaShift studying abroad at la Universidad Nacional in Heredia, Costa Rica. Get regular updates from @Zachary_Cohen on Twitter or on his blog.

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