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Digging Deeper::YouTube CEO Hails ‘Birth of a New Clip Culture’


There is a simple truth about video-sharing site YouTube, and an enigma. The simple truth is that this web startup has bottled up the viral video idea and made it eminently drinkable by anyone — you go to the site, find the video clip you want to watch, and, voila! you’re watching it in seconds. And if you want to upload and share your own videos, the process is also very straightforward and free of charge.

But the enigma is how YouTube will profit on its own spectacular popularity. Julie Supan, senior director of marketing for YouTube, said the site now serves up 35 million videos per day, and users upload 35,000 videos per day, with 100 million page views per day. These are massive numbers for a site that’s not even a year old yet.

But so far, the only hint of a way this startup will make money is by making deals with media companies such as MTV2 and E! Entertainment Television to help promote their offerings with video clips. Of course, YouTube could add advertisements before each clip is shown, but that would change the user experience and would require advertisers to feel comfortable with the strange brew of material there.

With TV networks asking for copyrighted material to be pulled off YouTube, the site started to get noticed in the press, and a Google News search brings up 714 recent stories. Those include Virginia Heffernan of the New York Times proclaiming that “skinny guys in moppy hair in modest houses” are making the most popular YouTube videos.

Heather Svokos of the Fort Star Telegram explains the site’s popularity thusly: “It was a smart idea that caught a wave at the right time, and now it’s giddily feeding a few of our most human cravings: the urge to share, connect, and to see it for ourselves.”

Most of what Svokos recommends as her favorite clips on YouTube — and links to from her article — are likely copyright violations. As I warned when I first wrote about YouTube’s videos shot by American soldiers in Iraq, copyright infringements are impossible to totally eliminate. For each one YouTube pulls down, another dozen could sprout up. YouTube has tried to limit the longer form violations with a 10-minute limit to videos, and puts the burden on content owners to ferret out violations and notify the site.

So the balancing act continues, with YouTube trying to meet the needs and tastes of its vast audience of clip junkies, while making deals with media companies for professional clips. The small company, based in San Mateo, Calif., down the peninsula from San Francisco, has just 23 employees but will likely have to grow more over time to meet its growing audience and all their content.

I sent along my five big questions for Chad Hurley, the CEO of YouTube and a co-founder. The following are his unedited responses via email.

Q: What’s your longer term vision for YouTube? A bigger MySpace-like community with more social networking, or a stronger video-feature focus with mash-ups and the like?

Chad Hurley: Our vision is to build the next-generation platform for serving media worldwide.

It is the birth of a new clip culture. There is a complete shift happening in digital media entertainment and users are now in control of what they watch and when they watch it. At YouTube, we are seeing an evolution of entertainment and media distribution — where the audience is now in control more than ever.

We do plan to incorporate more customized features over the coming months so that members can personalize their profiles and how they engage with the content on our site. We listen to our users as we develop new features because it is their feedback and insight that has helped us build the community.

Q: There are a lot of video-sharing sites online, so how do you explain the huge success of YouTube?

Hurley: It’s about user choice and we are the people’s choice — our success lies in the fact that we are democratizing the entertainment experience and creating a community for people to interact with video. Also, YouTube has made video sharing easier than anyone else. Members can be uploading and sharing video within minutes of wandering onto the site.

Q: YouTube’s motto is “Broadcast Yourself.” If this is about a digital media revolution where everyone can be the star, why make deals for Big Media content (E!, MTV2) for use in YouTube?

Hurley: YouTube is a stage for everyone. With this (cultural) shift happening in digital media entertainment and a new clip culture evolving, TV networks and other professional content creators, such as movie studios and record labels, have an opportunity to promote their programs or new records through YouTube. And professional content is absolutely of interest with our viewers — so long as it is entertaining and short-form. Clips like Nike, E!‘s Cybersmack clips, and movie previews like the “Scary Movie 4” trailer are all very popular with viewers. Because it is a democracy, users decide what is popular and determine what they are going to share with others.

Q: Please explain your business model, and how it might adversely affect the grassroots community that has sprouted up at YouTube.

Hurley: It will be an advertising-based model. We are exploring ways to serve up relevant advertising that will benefit the viewing experience since we know a lot about each of the videos based on how they are tagged. We have been moving cautiously to ensure we don’t disrupt the goodness of the community. But at the end of the day it’s the viewers that decide what is entertaining whether it be user-generated content or professionally produced videos — our community is still in control and will decide what rises to the top.

Q: When it comes to copyright violations and inappropriate material, how much can you filter technologically, and how much do you depend on users to monitor this?

Hurley: It is the rights holders that alert us to unauthorized videos on the site — through the Digital Millennium Copyright Act notification process. We comply with the DMCA and remove videos when we have knowledge that they are posted by users without permission of the copyright owners. This is what the law requires of us.

In addition, we have developed a number of tools both internal and for rights holders to help us identify unauthorized videos on site. With 35,000 videos uploaded to our site per day, we clearly need content owners to cooperate and alert us of any unauthorized content of which they are aware.

Our policy prohibits inappropriate content on YouTube. Our community understands the rules and effectively polices the site for inappropriate material. The users can flag content that they feel is inappropriate. This combined with our proprietary technology helps us to enforce the rules. We also disable the accounts of repeat offenders for both inappropriate material and copyright violations.

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What do you think? Have you checked out YouTube and other viral video sites, and what did you like about them? Not like? Should content owners and Big Media companies lighten up over copyright issues? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

Mark Glaser :Mark Glaser is founder and executive director of MediaShift. He contributes regularly to Digital Content Next’s InContext site and newsletter. Glaser is a longtime freelance journalist whose career includes columns on hip-hop, reviews of videogames, travel stories, and humor columns that poked fun at the titans of technology. From 2001 to 2005, he wrote a weekly column for USC Annenberg School of Communication's Online Journalism Review. Glaser has written essays for Harvard's Nieman Reports and the website for the Yale Center for Globalization. Glaser has written columns on the Internet and technology for the Los Angeles Times, CNET and HotWired, and has written features for the New York Times, Conde Nast Traveler, Entertainment Weekly, the San Jose Mercury News, and many other publications. He was the lead writer for the Industry Standard's award-winning "Media Grok" daily email newsletter during the dot-com heyday, and was named a finalist for a 2004 Online Journalism Award in the Online Commentary category for his OJR column. Glaser won the Innovation Journalism Award in 2010 from the Stanford Center for Innovation and Communication. Glaser received a Bachelor of Journalism and Bachelor of Arts in English at the University of Missouri at Columbia, and currently lives in San Francisco with his wife Renee and his two sons, Julian and Everett. Glaser has been a guest on PBS' "Newshour," NPR's "Talk of the Nation," KALW's "Media Roundtable" and TechTV's "Silicon Spin." He has given keynote speeches at Independent Television Service's (ITVS) Diversity Retreat and the College Media Assocation's national convention. He has been part of the lecture/concert series at Yale Law School and Arkansas State University, and has moderated many industry panels. He spoke in May 2013 to the Maui Business Brainstormers about the "Digital Media Revolution." To inquire about speaking opportunities, please use the site's Contact Form.

View Comments (19)

  • Hello!I want to send email to Chad Hurley, is there anyone who is so kindly to tell me his e-mail address? Many thanks!

  • All the talk about low content quality is silly. Of course the mediocre floats to the top in a viewer rated environment. It's called a low common denominator and it's what popular media has been about since the beginning.

    That said there is fantastically interesting and, I dare say weighty, material being posted in volume. Look for the emergence of spin-off "curated sites" like VIEWTUBE (found this site in an article on "clip culture", in Wikipedia) for a mix of "high" and "low".

    Initially I thought that legal challenges would quickly incapacitate Youtube. But it's become clear-due to massive, spontaneous, popular growth, that this is the model for the future.
    And viewed a certain way, the low quality flash compression may be a buffer against litigation-Can this possibly erode hdtv or 70 millimeter projection unless people really don't care in the first place?- while this path changes rapidly from ant trail to cobblestone to superhighway .

    Economic stratagies will develop around this. It's massive publicity for one thing. So we can hang our chairs on the wall and become a Ludites- and read about people filing tortes in the newspaper-or we can move with this.

    Combined with what the youngsters are doing with myspace etc. it's a big, big shift that's occurring.

  • I enjoyed the interview, but it seems that it will be difficult to move to a new advertiser-driven business model if YouTube didn't start there.

    Very hard to tell consumers that the service must change to accomodate business needs unless you offer a new increased value in return.

    Mike
    http://www.OnDisruption.com

  • I like YouTube and we must remember it is just a baby still, so can the harshing and player hate.

    When a new tool comes along, there are always the underachievers moaning and whining about imperfections.

    I think YouTube is doing for vlogs what Blogger did for blogs. I am trying to find a good directory of CEO video bloggers now, as I experiment with my own videos on YouTube.

    YouTube and video blogging are the future. Podcasts and plain text blogs are dead.

  • P.S. Why complain about YouTube quality, when I just now got back from Forbes video offerings, and all I got was an Error Message that there seems to be some problem with connecting to RealPlayer.

    Hmmmmph. Not very professional after all. RealPlayer?

    Thanks YouTube.

  • i am raghad asfari from syria aleppo i am a musician my instrument is piano i attended the party of sami yusuf in aleppo and he talked to me and told me to carry on music and he sent me a message on my mobile i 18_3_2006 to enter click a tel position but i could not to enter i want to tell mr sami that his latest video is so great so can you help me and tell him this instead of me with my regards to youtube

  • i am raghad asfari from syria aleppo i am a musician my instrument is piano i attended the party of sami yusuf in aleppo and he talked to me and told me to carry on music and he sent me a message on my mobile i 18_3_2006 to enter click a tel position but i could not to enter i want to tell mr sami that his latest video is so great so can you help me and tell him this instead of me with my regards to youtube

  • I think YouTube is a wonderful invention.
    I like the fact that you can upload virtually a video and audio using any codec set, and it is recognized and converted correctly.

    I am a little dismayed at the large amount of SPAM that has appeared in my Inbox since I signed up, and the fact I am seeing YouTube wanna-be advert windows that are nothing of the sort, just a JPEG single picture that tries to get you to go to their site, with no link or video whatsoever to Youtube.

    Additionally sites that blatantly use YouTube for advertising. Now, if YouTube is getting paid for this, then it's all fair, YouTube is free, certainly acceptable.

    However, if YouTube is seeing zero return on these unlicensed adverts, they need to set down some ground rules and spare us from all except the paying advertisers.

    I see in the future Youtube being as searchable and available as Google. Now we just need a music foray and we're all set on media searching. :)

    Please Consider
    dw817

  • YouTube was backed by angel investors and venture capitalists, and has since been bought out by Google for over $1.5 billion.

    Now I love Google, and I do believe they 'aren't evil' as they like to proclaim, but you don't buy a company for $1.5 billion and sign deals with major studios, networks, and record labels, and leave the 'democratic community controlled' model for long.

    The future of internet television is not in YouTube, it is in the viewing habits of the audience. If you want to eliminate the control of media from the handful of individuals currently in charge, you will find more benefit in RSS feeds and truly democratic players / video search engines, like Miro. Completely non-profit and funded by a loyal community, Miro's creators have built their foundation in a manner that Nasdaq investors cannot seize control and start selling off in chunks to the current media conglomerates.

    I like YouTube for watching 'stupid' entertainment, but for the 21st century of television, I really hope Miro wins out, after all, open source did wonders for Firefox - the best web browser available.

    Remember, television has always been free, and the advertising revenue has always gone to the content creators/owners (naturally with the broadcasters taking their share for distributing the content); it should never be that all of the advertising revenue remain with the broadcaster (i.e. YouTube) with nothing being paid to the content creators or owners. That would be like writers giving their novels to Amazon for free and Amazon keeping 100% of the revenue from sales. Hardly seems like a fair business model.

    Colin Correia, CEO
    GuerillaPress Inc.
    Toronto, ON

  • YouTube was backed by angel investors and venture capitalists, and has since been bought out by Google for over $1.5 billion.

    Now I love Google, and I do believe they 'aren't evil' as they like to proclaim, but you don't buy a company for $1.5 billion and sign deals with major studios, networks, and record labels, and leave the 'democratic community controlled' model for long.

    The future of internet television is not in YouTube, it is in the viewing habits of the audience. If you want to eliminate the control of media from the handful of individuals currently in charge, you will find more benefit in RSS feeds and truly democratic players / video search engines, like Miro. Completely non-profit and funded by a loyal community, Miro's creators have built their foundation in a manner that Nasdaq investors cannot seize control and start selling off in chunks to the current media conglomerates.

    I like YouTube for watching 'stupid' entertainment, but for the 21st century of television, I really hope Miro wins out, after all, open source did wonders for Firefox - the best web browser available.

    Remember, television has always been free, and the advertising revenue has always gone to the content creators/owners (naturally with the broadcasters taking their share for distributing the content); it should never be that all of the advertising revenue remain with the broadcaster (i.e. YouTube) with nothing being paid to the content creators or owners. That would be like writers giving their novels to Amazon for free and Amazon keeping 100% of the revenue from sales. Hardly seems like a fair business model.

    Colin Correia, CEO
    GuerillaPress Inc.
    Toronto, ON

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