After New York University journalism student Alana Taylor wrote her first embed report for MediaShift on September 5, it didn’t take long for her scathing criticism of NYU to spread around the web and stir conversations. Taylor thought that her professor, Mary Quigley, was not up to speed on social media and podcasting — even though the class she was teaching was called “Reporting Gen Y.” And Taylor felt that NYU was not offering her enough classes about new media; she cited the requirement that students bring print editions of the New York Times to class as one example of their outdated mindset.
Not surprisingly, Quigley was not happy with the story and was upset that Taylor had not sought permission to write her first-person report about the class, and told Taylor it was an invasion of privacy to other students in the class. By Taylor’s account, Quigley had a one-on-one meeting with Taylor to discuss the article, and Quigley made it clear that Taylor was not to blog, Twitter or write about the class again. That was upsetting to Taylor, who had been planning a follow-up report for MediaShift that would include Quigley’s viewpoint and interviews with faculty.
Taylor described to me what happened when Quigley brought up the article in class later.
“She told the class to read the article,” Taylor said. “Then she asked, ‘You all read Alana’s article, what did you think about it?’ There was silence for a good 30 or 45 seconds, and it was awkward and weird. And she said, ‘OK, we can all agree that there will be no more blogging or Twittering about the class.’ It was weird. It seemed like the students were scared to say anything.”
Later, some students in the class asked Taylor outside of class what she did wrong. She explained that according to Quigley, it would be an invasion of the students’ privacy if she wrote about the class. Another student told her, “I didn’t want to say anything in class but I really loved the piece and totally agreed with everything you said.” (The other students in the class did not want to be identified in this story.)
Because Taylor felt that writing a follow-up for MediaShift was not a good idea in light of her professor’s admonition, I decided to take on the task of finding out why a journalism student at NYU would not be allowed to report on what was going on in her classroom. First, I wondered what NYU’s policy was on blogging in or about a class. It ends up that there is no policy.
“We don’t have a policy,” said Brooke Kroeger, director of the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute at NYU (the journalism school was recently renamed). “Truthfully it’s never come up before. It’s not the sort of thing that we would control. Professors make their own choices about grading, about deadlines, about standards, about classroom participation — it’s not something we legislate. They’re decided by the instructors generally.”
Kroeger would not talk specifically about Taylor’s piece for MediaShift because she said legally she is not allowed to talk about a student’s performance in public. She defended Quigley’s decision to restrict live-blogging and Twittering because it would be a distraction in a classroom, and said professors could choose their own appropriate policy restricing or allowing students to report afterward on what went on in class.
“Given the new means of communication and how instantaneous they are, it might be a good subject for a forum,” Kroeger said. “If you follow the Chronicle of Higher Education, you’ll see people come on and talk about IM’ing in class and texting in classes, and it’s distracting. People aren’t excited about that in any circumstance. But on the other hand, we’re providing a total WiFi environment with computers in your face.”
Permission Before Blogging
When I approached Quigley to have her explain her ban on blogging, Twittering and writing about what goes on in her class, she at first directed my query to Kroeger. Later, she wrote back to me by email:
I will confirm that I asked the class not to text, email or make cell phone calls during class. It’s distracting to both me and other students, especially in a small class seated around a conference table. This has always been my policy, and I would hazard a guess that it’s the policy of many professors no matter the discipline.
However, I did say after the class session they were free to text, Twitter, blog, email, post on Facebook or whatever outlet they wanted about the course, my teaching, the content, etc. And, because much of the subject matter of this course relates to them and their Gen Y experiences I would not be surprised if they did. At this point, as a course requirement, they all have blogs. [Emphasis added by her.]
So was Quigley now softening her stance on students writing about the substance of her class? When I followed up and asked her whether that meant students still needed to get permission before writing about class, she said: “Yes, I would certainly require a student to ask permission to use direct quotes from the class on a blog written after class.”
I wondered if there was a legal basis for NYU requiring students to get permission before live-blogging or even writing about a class afterwards. As a private school, NYU might be able to restrict a student’s reporting on what went on in a classroom — but that would go against everything that journalism schools are teaching students about the First Amendment and freedom of the press.
William Creeley is the director of legal and public advocacy for the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), which helps defend students’ free speech rights. Creeley said that NYU might have legal grounds for restricting what students write about classroom activities, but that it would look hypocritical for a school that touts freedom of the press.
“While it might be technically true [that a private school could restrict speech], it would be evidence of an awfully meager interpretration of the rights of free expression which NYU explicitly guarantees its students in its promotional materials and its student handbook,” said Creeley, who got his undegraduate and law school degrees from NYU. “They could make that claim but I don’t know if that would be consistent with their imagination of themselves as a modern university with those rights guaranteed.”
As for the claim that live-blogging would be an invasion of privacy, Creeley thought it was more of a red herring.
“The idea that live-blogging or Twittering would be an invasion of privacy — from a legal standpoint, that doesn’t hold water,” he said. “There’s no possible expectation on the teacher’s part for privacy about what is taught in the classroom. If that’s the case, then no one could write a teacher feedback form at the end of class. That would go out the window. That’s a far cry from what goes on in one’s own home, or in a telephone coversation or email exchange.”
Floyd Abrams is a veteran media lawyer who has argued First Amendment cases before the Supreme Court, and is a partner at Cahill, Gordon & Reindel. He thought that a rule banning live-blogging or Twittering in class made sense, but restricting coverage outside class was not going to work. Here is part of an email he sent me on the subject:
Students have irritated their professors for years. William F. Buckley’s ‘God and Man at Yale’ was a best-selling early 1950s expose of what Buckley viewed as the teaching to Yale undergraduates of left-wing, collectivist, godless mush. Professors objected to the notion that what they said in class should be publically revealed and claimed that such revelations would be ‘chilling.’ Just a few years ago, Columbia undergraduates who viewed certain pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli statements of certain professors as being false, misleading and sometimes intimidating went public to newspapers, in films, and the like expressing their dismay. Once again, the professors and others in the faculty believed that such criticism — based on what had been said in class — was inappropriate.
I disagree. My own view is that while student commentary that is critical of ongoing classes can lead to a level of tension in class at the same time it makes extremely difficult a teacher-student relationship…it does not violate the ‘privacy’ of the classroom and should not be banned or punished. Would it be llegal to do so? It certainly wouldn’t be unconstitutional since NYU isn’t a state school and thus subject to First Amendment limitations. Whether it violates NYU rules I have no idea. I would be very surprised, however, if NYU permitted a student to be punished for writing such a critique. Surprised and disappointed.
Consulting the NYU Journalism Handbook
So what kind of applicable rules does NYU have in its Journalism Handbook for Students? The Handbook’s author, NYU assistant professor and tech journalist Adam Penenberg, was quick to point me to a passage that would call into question Taylor’s “undercover” reporting technique:
Before engaging in any undercover work for a class assignment, consult your professor. Carefully consider whether your reporting could violate criminal or civil law. Weigh the potential harm involved. Could relying on subterfuge get you arrested? Could it lead to violence? Does it invade someone’s privacy, especially in a non-public area like a home or an office? Are there laws in your state against recording without a person’s permission, or specifically against using hidden cameras? Might it undermine the validity of your story? These are serious questions to consider.
Penenberg thought that I should have required Taylor to get permission from her professor before writing about the class, even though it would be a moot point to ask permission to go undercover of the person who is the subject of the story. Penenberg explains that there is a difference in classroom discussions when they are private or for public discussion, and that the tenor would change if students and professor knew they were being recorded by a journalist or blogger.
“I have taught classes in which the tenor of conversation could have changed drastically if a student were to announce that she were going to blog about it,” he said. “For example, in a media ethics course we talked about naming the accused in rape cases but not the alleged victim. This, as you can imagine, led to a very contentious debate, because false accusations can ruin a life and career. In a classroom you are safe to express unpopular opinions but you probably wouldn’t do it if you felt it would end up on a blog post somewhere.”
Penenberg said that the school’s policy is that they would require a student to ask permission before live-blogging a class or blogging about it after the fact or writing an article.
“That said, I already allow students to blog about a [grad school] class I teach,” he said. “As part of my syllabus for ‘Guerrilla News,’ I have students blog about their multimedia projects, and that includes, if they so choose, to blog about what transpires inside and outside of class. I invite speakers to come in and students can blog about that, too. Part of the blog focus is to help students research their topic more thoroughly; the other is to be the ‘reality show’ behind the making of their multimedia project. But another professor might feel differently.”
While Penenberg touted the multimedia strengths of NYU’s journalism graduate program, Kroeger defended the undergraduate program by saying that new media was not shunted off into specialized classes but weaved into basic courses. She noted that classes now employed “beat blogs,” a specialty of NYU journalism professor Jay Rosen, who also teaches an undergraduate course on “The Rise of the Web.”
I asked Rosen what he thought would be the right policy about students blogging about their classes.
“Often our policy discussions begin when an incident occurs and we have to think about it…‘what’s our policy?’” he said via email. “This story may well have that effect. And the handbook, a faculty document, may well prohibit what Alana did; but to me that is not necessarily the key question because the handbook is ours to write and re-write. It has to adapt. I’m not sure what the ‘right’ policy is, Mark. I know that when a journalist wants to write about [or film] an NYU class we are required to get privacy waivers…It’s not clear to me that NYU would even allow us to have a faculty policy that reporting on a class without privacy waivers is okay, as long as you are embedded and undercover. That’s the kind of thing we have to know before we re-write a handbook or make rules for students.”
Kroeger, meanwhile, defends the decisions of her professors to set rules around blogging and writing about their classes, and thinks a forum on the topic would be a good way to share knowledge with other schools and brainstorm ideas. When I told her that NYU as a private school could legally restrict students from writing about classes, she demurred from that option.
“You could say that, but that’s not the way I would address this,” she said. “I just wouldn’t go there. In the end we have the same issues that any academic institution would have. It’s not quite a pure journalistic experience, it’s a classroom experience also, and there are some values that come into chafing. There’s a little bit of awkwardness there and we want to teach journalism and the highest level of journalism and all that that entails.”
What do you think? Should journalism schools restrict live-blogging or Twittering in class as distractions or use them as teaching tools? Should students be required to get permission before writing about what goes on in their classrooms? Share your thoughts or academic experiences in the comments below.
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@ Robert Taylor: "Definition of blog from dictionary.com: an online diary; a personal chronological log of thoughts."
You, and that definition, are out of date. Blogs haven't been restricted to the personal for a long time. Many blogs these days include rigorous analysis and reporting, and are commonly accepted as journalism. It's a reasonable expectation that a journalism student's blog--on behalf of MediaShift, no less--should be journalistic, rather than a personal rant.
I love what Jeff said! I totally agree. This is a typical reaction to a negative criticism. It's sad that quigly has evidently never recieved negative criticism and does not enjoy the negative aspect of creative criticisms. Suffice to say, the student utilized her creative abilities and is now being shuned.
Many forums, academic or otherwise, operate under Chatham house rules. The fear of having what you say reported back could have an adverse affect on a classroom, leading to a lack of openness.
This isn't a matter of rights, its a matter of common sense.
I've taught for many years and reported for many years. Recently, I asked who twittered in the public affairs class - nada...but who text'd, all were in. Now they know how to twitter - and have tried it. Want to blog about my class? Have at it - but not during the class. If your fone rings, I answer it. It's like the old passing of notes in the class - a matter of respect that goes both ways. And as for the paper form of NYT being required - if you can pass my simple current events quizzes from the online version - booya twice over.
As for some of the above posts - hmmm. spellcheck before you blog on.
Fascinating topic.
Next semester, I'm going to ask graduate students in my Ethics of Communication class at Marquette University to read about and tackle
the issues raised in the original articles, subsequent posts and the ombud's response. They will be asked to consider the issues in light of a range of moral theories, justice-based (rights and responsibilities) and care-based (concern for the other).
Some of the students will already have had my multi-media reporting class so issues of faculty knowledge about new media will likely arise in the conversations.
Should the students blog about the course? I don't know what they will decide, but they can make the decision together.
My own sense is that some people view life in the classroom as a personal investment of time and money and would prefer that the "drafts" of their thoughts and ideas, as they are worked out, not appear on the web for public consumption. Their view, I believe, should be honored.
Thank you for the ideas you've all expressed.
My contribution: Blogging and journalism are not the same things. Journalism has a history and tradition in this culture, some of it based on the idea that journalism is a public service. Blogging does not yet have its standards and practices worked out.
So, is a journalist a blogger? Can be.
Is a blogger a journalist? Not necessarily.
First, let me say that my comments pertain to blogging in general, not the specific blog that started this fascinating discussion. That said...
Karen hits the nail on the head - bloggers are not necessarily journalists. Google ANY topic and you will find bloggers writing with inaccurate facts, uninformed opinions, and offering few solutions to the problems of which they speak. These are things that any Op-Ed piece is expected to do (and let's face it, blogs are Op-Ed pieces). That's not to say you won't find plenty of informed writing. But, lots of people use blogs to vent and lots of uninformed people read these rants and take them to be truth. This is where journalistic practices and ethics are important. Free speech is one thing. Informed speech is another and it is the very thing that true journalists and journalism educators strive to achieve and impart on a daily basis. If we don't, ESPECIALLY in this age of instant information, we run the risk of becoming a society based on half-truths, susceptible to extraordinary propaganda.
Beyond journalism, and whether right or wrong, it also behooves every blogger to realize that not only will their blog be available to the public, but the words they write could have a tremendous impact on their life - free speech or no free speech. Consider "at will employment" and the story of a young person whose name and employer shall remain protected. The young person maintained a blog with a fake username and chose to blog about the employer. As you might guess, the employer was cast in a negative light. The employer used computer addresses to track down the person and subsequently fired the person for cause. If educators don't emphasize the potential ramifications of this kind of public writing, students are being poorly served.
This could be an example of student citizen journalism, in which case, I don't believe it should be censored in the same way a professional journalist might be. I mainly feel this way because the citizen (student) may not yet have been fully trained in the same manner as a more experienced professional journalist.
I am also curious, from a psychological standpoint: Do you think this would have unfolded in the same manner had Alana written an adulating review of her professor? I think when it comes down to it, the content itself has created the tension point here. And where there's tension, there is emotion, which can blind us from engaging in critical thinking about such matters.
In my opionion, a better option would have been for Quigley to engage the students in a dialogic argumentation exercise aimed at improving upon the thier epistemological understanding about this controversial topic. An examination of the multiple perspectives present in this case could have proven to be a worthwhile exercise, one that could teach students how laws accompanying journalism are being made - at this very moment - very relevant for the Gen Y'r. I say, it's still not too late to do it. Perhaps Alana could take the lead in the discussion, in class, and make amends with the professor while also helping your fellow students think critically about this exciting topic.
Thanks for the excellent post!
With regard to new social media: It's far easier to knife someone in the back now than it used to be. You can do it anonymously, through Yelp, or you can blog your discontent. You can start "I hate X" groups on facebook. Social media has given us a whole new set of tools.
It's a fact of life that some student, somewhere, is going to think that you suck if you're a teacher. What to do?
I think that the new technology represents a sea change for teachers. No longer do young pups need to "earn" the ability to make comments or snipe. Some people say that this is breeding a generation of obnoxiously narcisstic young folks who feel a massive sense of entitlement with regard to getting attention, but hey. At least they're not boomers :-)
As someone who ostensibly teaches new technology, IMHO the teacher should create some type of sandbox in which her class members can exercise all of the activities that one can do - and watch what happens. The teacher should try to get in front of the media.
Fallout from social media usage is a huge issue. Wouldn't it be nice if it was taught in school?
@catmikk
I see both sides to this issue. I can understand where an instructor could feel undermined and how this activity could cause disruption. I can also see where this activity could create the opportunity for growth and improvement in the course as well.
I completely support the student's right to blog about her experience and opinions of the class but I think in the spirit of journalism she should have interviewed the instructor and asked her, for example, why she was requiring a print version of the NY Times in a class about Gen Y reporting? She could have used her criticisms of the instructor as the basis for questions she could ask in order to get the whole story and to potentially provided an impetus for change rather than an entrenchment. In fact, the potential for positive impact on the class existed in raising these issues in a fair and respectful manner. Whereas the nature of this blog entry was "undercover" with what seems on the surface to have the goal of soliciting controversy. I think journalism can be part of the solution as well.
This seems to be the problem with blogging versus reporting. Asking people to blog about their experience seems to omit the potential for growth through investigation beyond ourselves.
On the otherhand I think the professor needs to utilize the modern tools available to participate in a conversation. She could have responded in a more contemporary manner by posting a comment that identified her reasons for how she conducts class.
Before social media became a "professional" tool, it was just a way to connect and share things online, literally ANYONE can twitter/blog/upload video, which is why I am so confused why anyone talks about it like a serious professional skill??! Now that everyone has moved from newspapers/TV to the internet because of convenience, it's suddenly something that needs to be a major focus in a graduate level journalism class? KIDS use twitter, facebook, etc. EVERYONE uses twitter, facebook, etc. which makes it profitable, which makes it important. But it is NOT a skill that needs to be taught. The nature of blogs is that they allow people to rant, vent, and share opinions behind the privacy and safety of their screen, so yes it will probably be more fun to read and more engaging than traditional media sources. But if people really believe that solid journalism skills no longer have their place in such a world ... then the world has dumbed down more than I thought. Alana appeals to the growing generation of "adult-children" who are more selfish and narcissist than ever (her post shows a serious lack of respect for her teacher and her institution, and many respectable journalists who made significant contributions without a twitter account or BLOG - all while inflating her own ego). Also, ever since journalism got into bed with big business and decided to put profit ahead of everything else, they set themselves up to have to deal with this kinda bullshit and compete with fake journalists who are just good at garnering comments and making shit go viral. We might as well all walk around with "instagram/youtube this" or "facebook/tweet me" on our foreheads, this girl is seriously ridiculous and needs to experience real life outside her virtual one. I am shocked people like her get into grad school, what's happening to higher learning institutes?? Profit can't always be EVERYTHING, this is what you get.